Data-Scraping Philosophy Tube Puts Ethical AI Into the Pile

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So why, besides her recent cameos on Max and Disney shows, am I bringing her up today? Well, Philosophy Tube was one of the YouTube 48,000 channels recently revealed to have been scraped for an illegal, large-scale data dump known as “The Pile.” OpenAI, Apple, Nvidia and Salesforce (among others) are using the Pile to further develop their deep-learning AI products without obtaining consent or offering compensation for the creators whose work is used. OpenAI and Google are now contending with a $5 million dollar lawsuit by a YouTuber on behalf of these content producers, which, as Lon Harris points out, is, uh…nothing. Like, not even a drop in the bucket for the companies, and if split between 170,000 videos that make up the pile’s training set from YouTube would be valuing them at $29 a pop.

Meanwhile, a Meta AI chatbot recently admitted to being trained not on the Pile (yay!), but a wholly separate, proprietary method called Meta Scraping and Extraction (MSaE), which included its own dataset of another 3.7 million YouTube video transcripts. (Boo!) Philosophy Tube was also among those used for MSaE.

This feels particularly unfair, seeing as the pile may very well include Philosophy Tube’s hour-long explainer, “Here’s What Ethical AI Really Means,” which itself is a response to a user taking another popular video on the channel about Effective Altruism and running it through a generative AI program to create non-consensual pornography of Thorn.

“To have someone take my writing and use it for profit – these companies are trying to get people to invest in their product, trying to get people to pay to use their product – and they have taken something that I put a little bit of my heart and soul into, and they are selling it. It makes me feel violated,” Thorn told Marketplace in regards to the pile.

Is there a solution to this thorny issue? I’d suggest supporting Thorn via Patreon and watching her videos on creator-friendly subscription streaming service Nebula. While YouTube has policies forbidding this type of scraping practice, they clearly aren’t taking the sort of action against these major companies that they do among their own users. It’s an irony that won’t escape any of the creators taking financial hits whenever their work is erroneously misidentified by the automated ContentID tool but does nothing to protect their own copyrighted work from being used to help Apple’s profit margins. 


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